Bought 3 boxes today to try. I like the expansion and weight retention claimed.
Internet reviews were decent and I bought 20 gauge.
Well see how they do next month.

I have used them out of my 20ga seance 06 and wont use anything diffrent the first deer was a 250lbs doe and she walked out and when the bullet hit her she dropped in her tracks and i could see blood squirting out of her about 5ft in the air she kicked around for about 10 seconds and was dead I love them they work great you wont regret using them

they fly real good out of an 870 sp deer gun. shot an 8 point that dressed over 170. hit him swtraight on, slug traveled about 2 ft down his spine. mushroomed perfectly, lost 1 petal off the slug, almost 100% weight retention.

Thanks guys, any thoughts on recoil?
Some folks claim they have less?

yea the recoil is about the same or a little less then a regular rem slugger out of a 20ga

look at your bullet weight and velocity. the amount going out the front is going to correspond with the amount coming back.

I think they are with in a 100fps and both are 5/8 ounce