QUOTE(Central Oregon Bowhunter @ Jan 27 2009, 12:47 AM)

LOL I know but I wan't to get something like those in case I don't have a tree, and those are more sturdy then your knee correct? and I most likely will use the pack.

A friend of mine uses the bi-pod and likes them, but it seems to me like a hassle. A good sturdy knee works good when you have no other options!