i have a bad problem of canting my rifle when i hold it. im looking for something to help level the crosshairs with the rifle when i install a scope. ive seen a device wheeler's makes but i dont know if i like the design and have seen some negative reviews. does anyone have any other suggestions or experience with the wheeler level?

The wheeler engeinering level level level is as about as good of system as I have seen, it makes sure the rifle is level, the scope is level, I don't see how it can't work. IF you don't like it their is a bore sight company that makes a system, I can't remeber what it is called but Keith Warren use is and that thing looks like it will work good to.

I really don't see the problem. If you naturally cant the rifle and you mount the scope straight then when you aim a deer you will be looking at crooked cross hairs. If the cross hairs are straight for you thats all that matters...the spin on the bullet is the same, gravity is the same and the wind is the same no matter if you cant the rifle or not. Mount the scope to suit you, sight it in as you normally would.
I would use a level to mount the scope straight if i wanted to work on not canting the rifle, but if you are more comfortable and shoot better canting it then cant away. The only way anybody would ever know is if you loaned your gun to someone.

Mis-aligned crosshairs (not level with the rifle) cause almost as many accuracy headaches as shoot with your rifle off of level. If your scope is installed correctly, but you cant the rifle to the side when shooting, you can adjust your crosshairs to meet your POI, but it will only hit bullseye at that range and only if it is canted the same way every time. Any other distance or any other degree of cant and your bullets will appear to hit somewhere else. Yes the bullet will have the same flight path no matter where or how your scope is mounted, but canting the rifle moves the sight picture, so it will appear to hit someplace else in relation to the crosshairs.

The best thing I can think of is to get in some more range time with your rifle. Take a torpedo level with you to the range and when you post up your target, use it to make sure the target is level. Then when you put your crosshairs on it, make sure they match the target. When you're in the field, make sure your horizontal crosshair is about parallel to the animal's back. More range time with your gun will make you more comfortable shooting it, and the rest will soon become second nature so you won't have to think about it.

I don't know of any tools with a level to use in the field, but I'll look around and see what I can find.

Wes nail most of the reason you need a level scope, but one thing that I think he missed, Ijust scemed over his post, is the fact that if the scope is not level, it makes it near imposable to zero the rifle, because when you move it you are not just moving it in one direction, ex if your are moveing it up and it is turned to the left, you are moving it up at an angle to the left.

Yup. Good catch!

cabelas sell's a cheap little product that works well for this...

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/template...&hasJS=true

Another option is to just use a normal level...

Or, place a target close, like 25 meters, use a level to make sure the target is level. the, place the level on the gun and when the gun is level, simply rotate the scope until the crosshairs fit perfectly with the target..