I love scouting and hunting from my stands in Indiana, but I'd jump on any chance to get back down to the south and get in on a dog hunt...you'll see deer on your place you never knew existed! In the south in the swamps there truly are bucks that are ghosts! 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189863 0 4019 buckslayer_005 1 1 150.208.100.2 1133794609 0 shadow grass no doubt 0 22037 0 0 0 0 189864 0 1883 stoutk 1 1 206.246.188.226 1133794675 0 of the options max 4 hd...but overall for all seasons...Mossy Oak BU is by far the best pattern for me in INdiana...from early bow to late duck...mobu does the job 0 22037 0 0 0 0 189865 0 4019 buckslayer_005 1 1 150.208.100.2 1133794688 0 hey 10gahammer, how about guidin me on one of those hunts 0 22162 0 0 0 0 189866 0 4517 inbowhunter09 1 1 165.138.66.3 1133794932 0 I was wondering if any of you knew of a relatively inexpensive duck call that is user friendly? I bought the origional wench a couple years ago with the mastering the art video but just can't get the sound i'm looking for. I'm also having alot of trouble with the feeding call. Can you please give me some advice? 0 23597 need a little help 1 0 0 0 189867 0 4019 buckslayer_005 1 1 150.208.100.2 1133795152 0 12-0 baby, they are bound for super bowl glory (knock on wood) lol i watched the game last night and they took a poll and it was titled who can beat indianapolis? and they had a few teams names under there and also the option nobody and that was what had the most votes. Hopefully they will have the perfect season and get one of those rings. GO COLTS!!!!!!!!!!! 0 23598 HOW BOUT DEM COLTS!!!!!!! 1 0 0 0 189868 0 4517 inbowhunter09 1 1 165.138.66.3 1133795182 0 We headed out again this weekend looking for some geese that would corporate. WE saw only one flock but it was worth it. The decoys we4re out in front of us about 60 yards and with some reassuring calling the flock of 15 to 20 landed right between us and the decoys. Fun and successful goose hunt!!!!!!!!!! 0 23599 did have some success this weekend 1 0 0 0 189869 0 4019 buckslayer_005 1 1 150.208.100.2 1133795263 0 COLTS and pats, GO COLTS!!!!!!!!! 0 23423 0 0 0 0 189870 0 960 widucks07 1 1 205.213.111.50 1133796390 0 glad someone shot some geese 0 23599 0 0 0 0 189871 0 960 widucks07 1 1 205.213.111.50 1133796530 0 they have an acrylic meat grinder
im pretty sure the meat grinder is stricly polycarb
ive got the polycarb meat grinder right know.
and after this weekend i also can say that it doesnt freeze up 0 23509 0 0 0 0 189872 0 2197 coors0717 1 1 164.165.141.66 1133796720 0 Actually I believe it's called snake shot and is specifically designed for shooting snakes at close range. 0 23501 0 0 0 0 189873 0 960 widucks07 1 1 205.213.111.50 1133796879 0 well i sorrowfully have to annonce that waterfowl season is done for me for the year.
duck season in the closed yesterday and with a recent snow storm and below zero temps goose hunting will be pretty much shut down for me.
went down south west of milwaukee on the Fox river the only open water around and managed one greenhead before the snowstorm started. set up in good field for geese sunday morning but only saw some high migrators headed for illinois.
good luck to the boyz to the south
hopping to book a spring snow hunt.
this sucks
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189874 0 2429 Oklahomahunter 1 1 164.58.184.246 1133796983 0 Well rifle season is over and I did not see but one buck in two weeks. I mean its like the deer have dissappeared. Well I still have till Dec. 31 to get one with my bow so I am looking forward to that. 0 21745 0 0 0 0
189875 0 4489 JSolocam 0 1 70.183.122.30 1133797005 0 Thanks guys for you input....it helped! 
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189877 0 844 butterbean7008 0 1 66.167.62.233 1133798890 0 Bushnell makes a great product. I have on eof the earlier models, still works great. 0 23511 0 0 0 0
189878 0 3891 montanaelkslayer 1 1 131.53.128.33 1133799052 0 The use of dogs is absolutly ridiculous. If you need a hound to find a stinkin deer then your worst off then I could ever dream. You are not even the one hunting if you use hounds, they are! Keep the dogs for pheasants and such and just try using your own skill. Using dogs for deer :x , what a way to hunt. So no I would not condon the use of dogs for deer hunting 0 23593 0 0 0 0
189879 0 844 butterbean7008 0 1 66.167.62.233 1133799053 0 12-1 after this weekend. 0 23598 0 0 0 0
189881 0 844 butterbean7008 0 1 66.167.62.233 1133799395 0 QUOTE(montanaelkslayer)
The use of dogs is absolutly ridiculous. If you need a hound to find a stinkin deer then your worst off then I could ever dream. You are not even the one hunting if you use hounds, they are! Keep the dogs for pheasants and such and just try using your own skill. Using dogs for deer :x , what a way to hunt. So no I would not condon the use of dogs for deer hunting
It would be nice to state your opinion on the question. Oh I dont know somthing klike I am against it and hope that it is never done here. But to attack folks (no one in paticular, just a group) who are doing it as a legal metheod of hunting, shame on you. Dogging is an old tradition in the south.
There are some things that should be left off of forums.
1. politics
2. religion
3. baiting
and I guess now 4. deer dogs.
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189882 0 1848 bob 1 1 66.191.57.228 1133799479 0 I think the best for the marshs, swamps, and wild rice that I hunt is Northern Flight by Skyline. Unfortunatly, It's really hard to find now, so I'm presently using Max-4 0 22037 0 0 0 0
189883 0 1848 bob 1 1 66.191.57.228 1133799791 0 I've never liked the wench either. Get the Yo Sista or the fat lady. They're much better calls in my opinion. Check Walmart after season. Ours has calls for 50% or more off. Maybe that's after Christmas that they mark em down. 0 23597 0 0 0 0
189884 0 1848 bob 1 1 66.191.57.228 1133800022 0 My nephew has them. They're a good quality decoy that holds up well. At least his have. I don't think they look as good as GHG, but they are made in the USA 0 23596 0 0 0 0
189885 0 3665 Jimbob 1 1 70.31.140.47 1133800173 0 Who can beat the colts during the regular season?
nobody
here's a more important poll
Who can beat the colts during the playoffs?
Anybody
ha ha ha ha.
I'm joeking they're good but I want to see them do it when it counts. 0 23598 0 0 0 0 189886 0 3665 Jimbob 1 1 70.31.140.47 1133800630 0 I based my vote on why I missed. My first miss was two weeks ago in a blizzard. I judged 30 and slid the arrow right under the deer, it was 36(rangefinder didn't work in the snow). 0 23585 0 0 0 0 189887 0 4176 campkingmd 1 1 12.164.142.66 1133800863 0 They rush, draw at the wrong time and think to much.
Watch a deer that you are going to pass and count how many times you could have made the shot as they pass you (bow or gun). You will be surprise. Sometime they end up coming from 100 yards out, to directly benieth you.
Don't draw to soon, so many hunters get caught at full draw only to get shaky or impatient and take shots they shouldn't. When a better shot could be made if they waited.
The idea of practicing is so when the opertunity presents its self you don't have to think just react, if your technique is consistant , your instincs will take over and never have to think about your form or if evrything is perfect before you shoot.
Don't get me wrong I take the first opertunity they give me and things can happen quick but that part can't be taught it has to be learned from experience. 0 23585 0 0 0 0 189888 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133801203 0 Ya'll, the deer dog issue has been an enormously hot topic here in AR the last couple of years. Most folks don't want it at all, but don't mind so bad if the dogs would stay off their private land. The converse arguement is that dogs can't read posted signs. Last year there was so much debate over the issue the AGFC decided to make a ruling. The most vocal people on both sides voiced their opinions, and from the AGFC's standpoint there were about equal numbers that both wanted it and wanted it outlawed. Many of those that wanted it outlawed said they'd be okay with keeping it around if the dog runners would do a better job of policing their own - keeping dogs off private land for the most part, but also tagging more of the deer they kill. The dog runner crowd agreed to the terms and the AGFC tabled the decision until next year to give the dog runners one last chance to clean up their act. It's only legal in just a few zones in the state, but even folks up in the mountains (where it isn't legal) have problems with dog runners. These are the type of hunters that give all dog hunters a bad reputation, however well-earned.
In my book I don't believe that running deer dogs is ethical, so I think it should be outlawed. On the other hand, it's a legal method of hunting here in the south, and I'll support every legal method of hunting as long as I live. This is a quote from the Hunt Fair Chase website....
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...there are many things in the hunting and habitat management world that are legal, yet can be considered by some to be unethical. Again, it is left for each individual to set his or her own ethical standards. Hopefully, all of our collective decisions will shine positively on hunting, management and its traditions...
Like I said, I personally feel that it is unethical by MY OWN standards, so it doesn't fit into my own personal list of fair chase rules. If it fits into someone else's, fine.
Here's what I posted on the Arkansas Hunting forum:
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I haven't chimed in on the dog issue as of yet, but only because I had no personal experience with deer dogs. Opening day of gun season I hunted in zone 11 on some family-owned private land, and had my first run-in with deer dogs. I came across 3 beagles on my way to my stand...trespassing on private land. I imagine the guy driving the white Dodge pickup up and down the road in front of my uncle's house with his arm sticking out of the window holding an antenna was the proud owner. Of course, the dogs didn't know they were trespassing, and it wasn't my land to expel them from, so I let them go on about their business. My uncle despises them, but I didn't go out to shoot dogs. I wanted venison. Besides, they weren't on the trail, and looked like they may have been just passing through. After I got settled into my stand, I could hear some dogs on the run, and could tell they were getting close - well within 200 yards, which would have put them well inside the private land I was hunting. I just sat there and let them push the deer to me. All I saw was a 7 point trot by my stand with his tongue hanging out. He had obviously been run all day. He saw me pull my gun up, but never faltered in his trot - he just looked at me as if to say \I've got bigger things to worry about, buddy.\ He never gave me a decent shot. The dogs never did show up, so I'd much prefer to believe the guy running the dogs (or lazily tracking them from the comfort of his truck if you will) called them off when he saw someone walking in to hunt there. If that's the case, I respect that, especially since my uncle's land borders a young pine plantation on some leased paper land, and I know they run dogs there.
All in all, I didn't see anything but a lazy hunter and some lost dogs...nothing of the caliber I hear so much about from the anti-dog folks. On the other hand, my uncle finds dead deer all the time in his pastures and his creek with a butt full of buckshot or gut shot, or otherwise wounded and not retrieved. Some may be from poachers that don't hunt with dogs, but he's found many with the dogs still on them, chewing their ears and bothering them, both dead and nearly dead.
I'd like to believe that the dog hunters are doing a better job of policing their own ranks. I have a hard time not defending any legal method of hunting, especially one so steeped in tradition and fellowship, because I want everyone to be able to hunt as much as and however they like, as long as they stay within the bounds of the law. The area I hunt in the Ozarks isn't legal for dogs, so we don't have the problems others do with them, which allows me to form my own opinion at my leisure and as I experience deer dogs and their owners. If it came down to a vote I would go with outlawing it, but because it isn't a matter of great importance to me one way or the other, I won't fight to have it either way. I'm lucky to be able to leave it to those to whom it matters.
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189889 0 3337 jbnance 0 1 162.58.82.244 1133801753 0 Sorry guys, but I live in Mississippi and a 150 class deer at 10 yards......
All in all, I didn't see anything but a lazy hunter and some lost dogs...nothing of the caliber I hear so much about from the anti-dog folks. On the other hand, my uncle finds dead deer all the time in his pastures and his creek with a butt full of buckshot or gut shot, or otherwise wounded and not retrieved. Some may be from poachers that don't hunt with dogs, but he's found many with the dogs still on them, chewing their ears and bothering them, both dead and nearly dead.
I'd like to believe that the dog hunters are doing a better job of policing their own ranks. I have a hard time not defending any legal method of hunting, especially one so steeped in tradition and fellowship, because I want everyone to be able to hunt as much as and however they like, as long as they stay within the bounds of the law. The area I hunt in the Ozarks isn't legal for dogs, so we don't have the problems others do with them, which allows me to form my own opinion at my leisure and as I experience deer dogs and their owners. If it came down to a vote I would go with outlawing it, but because it isn't a matter of great importance to me one way or the other, I won't fight to have it either way. I'm lucky to be able to leave it to those to whom it matters.
He would have felt the wrath of mankind had he come by me.
Maybe thats why I'll probably never kill a 180 class but truth is
most people will never kill a 150 class.
Just my opinion. If he lives where deer have a great chance to
mature and survive, more power to him.
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189890 0 70 2050z 1 1 192.131.85.3 1133801901 0 Any update? We've fallen behind and need to get some antlers on the ground. 0 21750 0 0 0 0
189891 0 1991 Bowhunter_4_life 1 1 64.146.139.170 1133802467 0 i've been working on it spent 17 hours ina tree this weekend and only saw a button buck and to does saw a shooter on my way ome in the head lights but thats about it got one more weekend so im going to relocate to a different stand see how things go 0 21750 0 0 0 0
189892 0 155 Feet Down 1 1 68.76.149.12 1133802876 0 Well, the weekend went as planned. We headed north to IL and put the W. KY smack down on the geese. We were not on the X, but with the geese in the area running traffic was not a problem. There were 7 of us, so we split up and hunted 2 different groups. We all killed a limit the first day by 10:00. My group got 5 bands that morning out of one group, and we killed out in one volley.
The next day two of the guys had to go back so we were all able to hunt together. Wouldnt you know it, but the first flock that got up off of the river decoyed to 15 yards and we killed 10. Another day of limiting in one volley.
This weekend was definately over to fast. I got in on two volleys, killed 4 geese, and got some more bling for the lanyard. I will post the pics as soon as my buddy gets them printed off of his digital camera. Hope yall had some successes this weekend as well. 0 23601 Rockin in IL 1 0 0 0 189893 0 1991 Bowhunter_4_life 1 1 64.146.139.170 1133803044 0 spent a total of 34 hours this late season in my stand and did have any elk come in when i was there. so i dont have anymore time to hunt this year for elk oh well will get them next year. it wasnt from lack of trying. 0 22433 0 0 0 0 189894 0 4261 rjeffers 1 1 12.161.107.166 1133803125 0 I have to agree with campkingmd. The last thing I want to think about is my form. I don't ever remember thinking about form before I shot. I think you kinda got to be cocky and know you are a good shot. Don't think when the deer gets close enough you are going to try to shoot him. Just know if the deer gets to close he is going to be smoke. 0 23585 0 0 0 0 189895 0 2714 GreeneCoDeerKiller 0 1 207.157.127.254 1133803814 0 Don't knock it tile you try it. I am tried of people judging something they have never done before. Tell the people that grew up in south Alabama dog hunting that it is unethical to sit and watch millions of does run by and not be able to shoot them. Saying that dogging is unethical is like saying a sport like rabbit hunting that is done the same way is unethical. 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189896 0 1883 stoutk 1 1 206.246.188.226 1133803998 0 depends...but never lower than 20...sometimes as high as 40-45...I have a 50 ft tow rope for my bow/gun...and I've been close to running out of rope before...during gun I go pretty high for the advantage of visibility...during bow I hate the angles of higher stands... 0 23354 0 0 0 0 189897 0 2205 Rass Bagley 0 1 216.162.6.135 1133804116 0 Here in eastern NC there is a tradition of hunting with dogs...We have problems every year with keeping dogs and their owners off our land...
They have ruined many hunts for us...So, I hate it...If you can keep the dogs on your land, go for it....If not...it should be stopped...These guys drop their dogs off on the road beside our farms...It is intentional....By the time the warden gets there..they are gone...approach the Pres of the club...Musta been another club....Funny thing is, the guys that dog....don't own any land...So they don't care what they kill....Their time is limited...They are only hurting themselves....In over 30 years of owning 3 farms...and 5 different dogging clubs involved....None of them has ever asked permission or invited us to hunt with them.....Nothing is more frustrating than managing the deer throughout the year, planting food plots, etc...Then going still hunting, and having 15-20 dogs running deer over your property....We have had them drive around fences, through crops, tear up farm paths....even walk onto the farm calling their dogs while we had hunters on stands....For some reason they think they can tresspass on our land to retrieve their dogs....
Its a tradition in the South....but, its days are numbered.... 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189898 0 2743 nyturkeyduster 1 1 216.162.20.129 1133804704 0 Hey Cody, that's awesome man. Tell the little bro congrats.
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189899 0 2743 nyturkeyduster 1 1 216.162.20.129 1133805105 0 I have a better question....How bout dem GIANTS?!!! 0 23598 0 0 0 0
189900 0 39 Matthew J. Greene 1 1 63.27.167.0 1133805557 0 Is it a Bushmaster, Armalite, Rock River, ?????? 0 23327 0 0 0 0
189901 0 3337 jbnance 0 1 162.58.82.244 1133805758 0 Thanks for the laugh. I needed that 0 23572 0 0 0 0
189902 0 4607 rocksteady 1 1 24.66.174.200 1133806942 0 looking at all of the photos here and on hunt101, there is people all over the place hanging yotes over their shoulders, handling them with bare hands etc,etc... :? :? :? :?
I have been told by trappers and seen different articles about ticks and Lyme Disease, that say that coyotes can carry the ticks and disease and it could be transferrable to humans.....Whever I kill and skin one of these little buggers I make sure I wear rubber gloves and do a really thorough check of my body when I am done...All my clothes get a wash in straight hot and at least 2 rounds in the dryer........
A buddy of mine got Lyme disease from a tick, he wasn't a hunter, just a hiker, and its really kicking the life out of him.....I searched through some of the posts, and people say there isn't Lyme in their area, but who would want to risk it......
Justy my opinion, but thought it would be a good topic for this subforum... 0 23602 Anyone concerned about Lyme Disease??? 1 0 0 0 189903 0 448 David Millsaps 0 0 69.239.157.49 1133807016 0 Don't throw your Mother Goose away. Give it to a kid. I always give my old calls to a kid or friend to get them started.
Yotey 0 23434 0 0 0 0 189904 0 4339 camocreek 0 1 206.255.56.113 1133807234 0 Rass,
I couldnt agree with you more when you said that they think they can tresspass to retrieve their dogs. That gives them no right! It happens to us every yr. this yr probably a little more than others. 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189905 0 1883 stoutk 1 1 206.246.188.226 1133807261 0 I can't imagine too many people answering honestly to lack of skill, but it probably happens more than we'd like to admit...I know with kids around now I don't practice as much as I'd like to...yardage on the other hand is something on the other hand I'll never master! 0 23585 0 0 0 0 189906 0 1883 stoutk 1 1 206.246.188.226 1133807535 0 Eli who??? NYTURKEYDUSTER...just kidding
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189907 0 1883 stoutk 1 1 206.246.188.226 1133807635 0 any snake is a dead one if I'm near it...or I'm fixing to get a gun quick to shoot it...I don't like them, never have...and never will, they give me the creeps! 0 23564 0 0 0 0
189908 0 3296 CMAN 1 1 144.13.226.122 1133807917 0 Same here my dads been baiting for me for late season bow hunting. Muzzeloader was also a bust I missed a doe at about 100 yards walking to the stand and thats all i saw. When i get out for winter break it should be good.
When does everyones seasons end?
Good luck
chad 0 21748 0 0 0 0 189909 0 3296 CMAN 1 1 144.13.226.122 1133808031 0 Sounds like an awesome hunt!!! Killing limits out of one group is amazing NICE SHOOTING
Chad 0 23601 0 0 0 0 189910 0 3296 CMAN 1 1 144.13.226.122 1133808120 0 I hear ya there man!!!! Ive been seeing some monster flocks of mallards now thats seasons closed.
Good luck to everyone else as well
chad 0 23600 0 0 0 0 189911 0 4261 rjeffers 1 1 12.161.107.166 1133808346 0 I love having pythons for pets but if I saw a snake like that in the wild I would probably scream like a little girl. I have a 6 ft. pet ball python but can stand snakes in the wild. I don't get it. 0 23564 0 0 0 0 189912 0 1883 stoutk 1 1 206.246.188.226 1133809557 0 what is VS-1...and where can you buy it...just curious...could use something new next year! 0 23576 0 0 0 0 189913 0 1883 stoutk 1 1 206.246.188.226 1133809718 0 well, stinks your done, but you've been hunting them for a while...here in Indiana we just started...shot a limit on Sunday (pix to come), and we go until mid Jan....I wonder the vast differences in seasons...we're not too far away from each other... :?: 0 23600 0 0 0 0 189914 0 2743 nyturkeyduster 1 1 216.162.20.129 1133809924 0 I've missed 3 deer with a bow and one turkey. All of those shots I think were missed because the animal was on top of me so quick that I kind of rushed the shot. Now I have learned just to stay calm and patient, if I don't get a shot, it's not the end of the world. 0 23585 0 0 0 0 189915 0 4353 bmoney 0 1 24.176.20.122 1133810124 0 yardage only when they are not within your comfort shot. Example, you shoot all the time and have a 20,30, and 40 yard pin right. You shoot very well at 20&30 but 40 you can shoot but it aint so hot. In the woods if the deer is between 30 and 40 you instinctively go for the 30 yard pin because your more comfortable with it right. That i think is when most yardage misses occur. I think this because like most people on here that are telling the truth, i have done exactly what i just wrote about 12 times, alot of them when i was younger of course but sometimes... things just dont go right 0 23585 0 0 0 0 189916 0 1044 BowOnly 1 1 69.150.216.194 1133810126 0 Mike, I do hope you get another shot but unless the deer did not spook after the shot, I don't think he will come back out in the open unless he is on a hot doe. If the guy that lives on the property is still seeing him, then I would set up in the general area the guy last saw him. I would try the VS1 again, it might bring him back out to check the does. 0 23576 0 0 0 0 189917 0 554 isshe 1 1 72.34.6.92 1133810192 0 Congratulations to both of ya...very nice buck and what a hog.
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189918 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133810409 0 GCDK,
I don't guess you got the gist of what I was saying. Short and simple, I consider ME running deer dogs to be unethical. If you feel it's ethical I'll support you doing it - as long as you obey the law. I got nothing against others doing it as long as it's legal. It just isn't something I don't care to do. As for hunting small game with dogs, well, that's a whole 'nother story. There are many methods of hunting deer - baiting, still hunting known trails, natural food sources, bedding areas, stalking, and so on. Ever try setting up a food plot for rabbits? Quail? I'm not saying you won't ever take any home doing it that way, but deer can be patterned and move about a great deal more than those animals, and dog hunting just isn't necessary to bag 'em. To be fairly successful hunting small game it's almost necessary. Sure it's more efficient to run deer with dogs - you sit in the truck, let the dogs jump deer and run 'em 'til they're tired, tracking them via radio collars and antennas from the comfort of your pickup, then head 'em off and shoot (at) what they're chasing. It's awful hard to field judge a deer at any distance anyway, and one that's running, well, that just ain't right. Not to mention the deer don't just stop when they see you, so almost all your shots will be at a running deer. Again, that's not ethical in my eyes. If you're good at it, more power to ya. Again - it just isn't for me. 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189919 0 2743 nyturkeyduster 1 1 216.162.20.129 1133810460 0 Do you guys think it would be a good idea to use target load on grouse, rabbits and squirrels? They have those boxes that hold 100 Federal shells at Wally World that are very affordable. Maybe I should just stick to my Remington #4s. I think the shot size of the Federal stuff is either 6 or 7 1/2. Thanks in Advance. 0 23603 Target load for upland game 1 0 0 0 189920 0 4353 bmoney 0 1 24.176.20.122 1133810582 0 well fellow michigander,
I have the lit' dog set and i called in over 12 yotes last year between k-zoo and Grand Rapids( thats were dowling is.) However it depends on what your looking for out of your calls. Exposed reed or internal, loud and raspy, softer and clean. I just got a Dan Thompson Red dessert howler two days ago. Havent used it yet but i can give you a report if you want. Good videos to watch to learn would be Calling all Coyotes 2. Randy Anderson movies before he started making TRUTH videos. They are a lot more informative on how to call and what kind of options you have for calls. A web site to look at calls is www.callingcoyotes.com and www.verminatorpredatorcalls.com. Hope this helps. 0 23555 0 0 0 0 189921 0 4280 vadeerhunter 0 1 12.38.0.230 1133810674 0 i really do not consider it more efficent to kill deer with dogs. to be homest i believe that we could kill more deer and bigger deer without them. 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189922 0 1044 BowOnly 1 1 69.150.216.194 1133810830 0 If you are shaking...it's either too much weight or there is a big buck in your sights. My guess is if you keep practicing the muscles in your upper body will become strong enough to stabilize the shaking. You should be able to pull, aim and bring the bow string back (don't fire)...REPEAT for 10 times straight. If you can do that, then the bow weight it fine.
Side note...this happens when lifting weights. Have someone bench press dumbells for the first time and watch their arms shake and be very unbalanced. The weight is may be no problem but all the smaller muscles have not developed to stabilize the movement. 0 23552 0 0 0 0 189923 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133811243 0 That's an interesting view of it man. It seems you may be more worried about getting the disease from the animal itself than the ticks it's carrying. I just looked this up, and according to the CDC it's theoretically possible to contract the disease from infected blood that gets into your own bloodstream, no such cases have been verified. They also say that ticks must be attached to the skin for 36-48 hours before they can actually transmit the disease. Pretty much every mammal can and will carry ticks - I find them on squirrels all the time - not just 'yotes.
We should all take precautions to protect ourselves from lyme disease, so I can appreciate your concern. I found this link at the CDC that might help folks become more educated about the disease and how it's transmitted. It's a good read, and can help you figure out how best to protect yourself.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/lyme_brochure.pdf 0 23602 0 0 0 0 189924 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133811474 0 Here's a link to some info on lyme disease, courtesy of the CDC. Not really equipment related, but I thought it would be a handy link to add...
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/lyme_brochure.pdf 0 19653 0 0 0 0 189925 0 2439 Buckfever 1 1 216.56.6.2 1133811571 0 Yah sunday sucked, I had a long night the night b4 so I didnt wake up in time to go out, and didnt get out all day, so I was sad on my behalf, what a bad ending to a semi-good year. Ill be lookin forward to next fall though.
-Buck 0 23600 0 0 0 0 189926 0 1112 jw 0 1 206.74.85.169 1133811723 0 regards of what some may think it takes skill to kill a deer with dogs, especially in the thickets and swamplands of south carolina. Picture this.... what is easier? killing a deer standing in a still position from 200 yards with a rifle or killing a deer with a shotgun while its running 40 mph down a road not big enough to drive a truck down. You can take a person that has never hunted, stick them in a stand and they can kill a deer, but try that dog hunting and they will go home hungry! 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189927 0 2439 Buckfever 1 1 216.56.6.2 1133811951 0 id have to say federals, thats pretty much all that I ever use, 3 inch #2's and #4's 0 23557 0 0 0 0 189928 0 4339 camocreek 0 1 206.255.56.113 1133812257 0 I really dont mean to offend anyone by my comment here....but what is more ethical, taking a good clean broadside shot or at running deer, my dad ran dogs when I was a kid, I have been there and I have friends that run dogs. Seems like there are far more deer crippled this way. Just the other day I guy in a lease next to us and says that race that just came on your lease, well the dogs are after a 6pt, one of our hunters shot him in the face! I thought, hmm, now we got a poor deer running around our lease without a face? :? 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189929 0 2352 hunter89 0 1 24.154.93.242 1133812537 0 its ok...........the Ravens will be back and better next year, iv been i Baltimore Raven/Colt fan my whole life and thats not bout to change....GO RAVENS!! and as for the colts im sure they'll mess up sumtime......remember Payton Manning hasnt won or gone to a super bowl :roll:
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189930 0 3337 jbnance 0 1 162.58.82.244 1133812786 0 The first time I tried to post pics I tried hunt101 and couldn't get it
to work. It sucks!!!!!!!!!!
Photobucket is the way to go 0 23498 0 0 0 0 189931 0 4607 rocksteady 1 1 24.66.174.200 1133812861 0 Think you lost me wmramse...
All of the precautions I take are to keep the ticks off me, the gloves are good for keeping everything clean, as well as discouraging transfer of lice and ticks etc (and who knows what else this coyote rolled in cause he thought it would make him smell purty). I do the laundry of my hunting clothes so that there is no chance that one can hangover, or even transfer to my household pets. (2 big Rottweillers and 2 cats). Not scared of getting from the yotes,just trying to eliminate potential transfer of the ticks from the carcass to me....
I did not do a search of the CDC, thanks for the info....I did not realize the young ones are dormant during the winter.
Makes me fell more comfortable..... 0 23602 0 0 0 0 189932 0 2352 hunter89 0 1 24.154.93.242 1133813105 0 im hopefully going Goose Hunting either on December 16th or sometime after here in Maryland............look out GEESE YOUR GOING DOWN 0 23600 0 0 0 0 189933 0 4261 rjeffers 1 1 12.161.107.166 1133813292 0 Have the Ravens been around as long as you? 0 23598 0 0 0 0 189934 0 10 Tommy -Deadeye- Barham 1 1 4.248.229.236 1133813805 0 With a predator problem like that I would only hunt with a buddy!
in HIM,
Deadeye 0 21369 0 0 0 0 189935 0 3988 skeaterbait 1 1 63.170.249.142 1133814166 0 I don't currently but have in the past. It a nice bow and fairly quick. 0 23580 0 0 0 0 189936 0 2714 GreeneCoDeerKiller 0 1 207.157.127.254 1133814346 0 Okay first of all they just don't drop the dogs off any where they. they find places where their is deer sign. Then when you get dropped off you still have to have some woodsmenship to know where to get to be able to make the shot. you aslo have to be a great shot to make a shot on a running deer, so in essance dog hunters are better hunters 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189937 0 3708 psearcher22 1 1 71.240.246.160 1133814824 0 my dad has hit them at 250 you just need to know your gun and be able to shoot it. 0 23595 0 0 0 0 189938 0 2375 LadyWIhunter 0 1 62.20.82.196 1133816064 0 Last Saturday dawned clear, cold and calm. With snow on the ground I anticipated a good day. And it didn't let me down.
I had yet to take a deer with my T/C black diamond that my husband had bought for me about 4 years ago and I was anxious to prove it. I had taken one deer with a previous muzzleloader but got rid of it because it failed to fire more than it fired.
To make a long story short, I took a 5 point and a slickhead Saturday morning. To say the least, I'm totally pleased with my black diamond.
I don't have any pics because when I took out the camera I had dead batteries. 10 degrees is a bit hard on them I suppose.
I saw alot of deer Saturday. It was a totally awesome day.
I'm tagged out now and I tagged out my husband as well. Nothing remains except my archery tags. And I sure would like to take one with the bow yet this year.
Other than that, I'm not quite through with the ole shotgun as I have a friend and her son with tags that want to hunt the late T-Zone.
The mom and I will be going out for half a day on Thursday and on Saturday I'm taking the boy out for his first hunt ever while his mom has to work. The mom, a first time hunter also, shot her first deer - a fat doe -during the regular season but would like to get another. The boy is chomping the bit to get his first deer now. For their sakes, I hope the deer move like they did this last Saturday. 0 23604 Successful Muzzleloader Hunt 1 0 0 0 189939 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133816442 0
QUOTE(GreeneCoDeerKiller)
...you aslo have to be a great shot to make a shot on a running deer, so in essance dog hunters are better hunters
Correction - better shooters. Being a good shooter and/or a good woodsman doesn't mean you're a good hunter. Sitting in your truck waiting for the dogs to run the deer to you doesn't fit into my own definition of hunting. My opinion. I understand what you're getting at though. And I agree, dog hunters have to be able to shoot better to be able to critically wound a deer running at 40mph, but in my opinion that's never an ethical shot. Again, it's my opinion - take it or leave it. I have yet to see any evidence (around here anyway) that our dog hunters are actually capable of killing successfully on the 1st or 2nd shot. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that I've seen no evidence of it.
We could debate this all day or even all week, but the long and short of it is that deer hunting with dogs isn't for me, but it's legal so I won't fight against it. As I said earlier, I have the 'luxury' of hunting where it isn't legal, so I don't HAVE to fight either way. For that very reason it isn't mine to fight for or against. I'll leave that up to those who have a stake in it one way or the other. 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189940 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133816658 0 I have no experience with the .30-30, but according to Remington's ballistics charts it's good out to almost 200 yards. That's assuming a self-imposed minimum of 1000 ft/lbs of KE. Past that though the drop is enough to miss the deer entirely without significant holdover. 0 23595 0 0 0 0 189941 0 4261 rjeffers 1 1 12.161.107.166 1133816759 0 You slayed em this year. Congrats again. The only thing I saw all weekend was 1 coyote. Shot while it was running full speed but missed. 0 23604 0 0 0 0 189942 0 4280 vadeerhunter 0 1 12.38.0.230 1133816760 0 here in VA there are not too many people who just sit n there truck and wait for the deer to come to them. Most of them will take up certain spots in the woods and wait for a dog driver to turn the dogs loose. but those to do hunt from their trucks are the ones who will ruin it for the rest of us. they are the ones that make other dog hunters look bad 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189943 0 2277 PSEaxis 1 1 12.208.237.137 1133816931 0 Colts will have the 12th man throughout the playoffs after playing the Jags. 0 23598 0 0 0 0 189944 0 2277 PSEaxis 1 1 12.208.237.137 1133817002 0
QUOTE(buckslayer_005)
COLTS and pats, GO COLTS!!!!!!!!!
2 afc teams bro. your half right with the colts though. 0 23423 0 0 0 0 189945 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133817013 0 Sorry man...sometimes I think stuff to death. It isn't bad until I actually put it into words :roll:
I've never met anyone with Lyme disease, but I imagine I'd probably go through a similar ritual or take the same precautions if I were in your shoes. One can never know where someone else's shoes have been
Sorry....couldn't resist!
I always suspected the young ones were dormant or dead in the winter, but I never knew the adults were active in the winter. I've never seen a tick after October that I can remember, but I've heard from some folks on here that they're bad up north right now. I guess that could be one of the reasons the disease isn't prevalent down here. There I go thinking again...
:mrgreen: 0 23602 0 0 0 0 189946 0 4261 rjeffers 1 1 12.161.107.166 1133817100 0 Has any body used these and are they worth the money spent on them? 0 23606 binoculars with built in digital camera 1 0 0 0 189947 0 2375 LadyWIhunter 0 1 62.20.82.196 1133817159 0 With all the posts I've seen here from people that say they'll shoot any dog they see chasing a deer, I'm really surprised that dog hunters aren't worried about their dogs running up on a hunter with this shoot the dog mentality.
Dog hunting is illegal here and it was illegal in TN where I used to live also. I've never done it and doubt I ever will. But if it can be done legally and ethically, I say go for it. Ethics would include asking permission from land owners and being responsible for dogs that cross lines. Obviously its going to happen. 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189948 0 2277 PSEaxis 1 1 12.208.237.137 1133817259 0
QUOTE(CAESAR)
I agree with your dad. I would have also passed on the deer and let him continue to pass on those genetics to the local population. There is always next year and tell your dad Good luck!
PS Don't flame the guy because his dad chooses to shoot trophy bucks,
to each his own. 8)
PS Don't flame the guy because his dad chooses to shoot trophy bucks,
to each his own. 8)
So your saying a trophy is only a 150 inch buck or better? If thats a trophy to you, then your hunting for the wrong reason. Most people who hunt deer for a living call a 150 buck a shooter any day. 0 23577 0 0 0 0 189949 0 4545 MAhunter 0 1 71.10.241.10 1133817325 0 it snowed bout 3 inches. i wnet out yesterday sunday to scout since u can't hunt on sunday in MA (stupid law) but i found where a big buck is bedding and the group of does he's following. there is no sign at my stand. should i stay in the stand i shot my deer in or set up near where i saw the sign. any input?? 0 23607 snow...and a small decision 1 0 0 0 189950 0 4409 Mich. Buck Wacker 0 1 70.104.126.227 1133817664 0 I think thats one of the most important parts of hunting, being able to move when needed. I set up a couple of stands in early Sept. and usually end up moving them both multiple times by the time Dec. gets here. Ya gotta go where the deer are. I'd move if I were you. Just pay close attention to that wind!! It will make or brake a hunt. 0 23607 0 0 0 0 189951 0 2205 Rass Bagley 0 1 216.162.6.135 1133817705 0 They do drop the dogs off on the road, next to our farms...in the cutovers..in an effort to drive the deer off our farms...and they line the roads with their pickups, trying to catch the deer crossing the road....So far as shooting...they are shooting buckshot....no big problem to kill a deer running with buchshot at 25-40 yards....I've done so many times myself....Deer tend to cross the same areas year by year when run by dogs....No problem to set up a stander where they crossed last time....The hunters also tend to shoot at deer running across fields at over 50 yards...which is about max range for buckshot to be efffective....Then they brag at killing a deer at 100 yards with one pellet of 00 from their shotgun.....Yep they must be real woodsmen...LOL 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189952 0 4178 MCH 1 1 65.68.122.155 1133818123 0 Well, rifles over. I've still got 2 archery tags but only one buck tag. Sure hope some more guys can pull through for us. We're doing great! 0 21756 0 0 0 0 189953 0 4607 rocksteady 1 1 24.66.174.200 1133818188 0 I have never found a tick on a yote, but have seen ticks on deer/moose/elk in the middle of winter, to the point where the animal is bald and so anemic that it can hardly walk....I realize that moose ticks are a different species from the ones that deer get, but I think deer ticks are transferrable to yotes and others....Whereas moose ticks not so much....What ever the species it kinda grosses me out, one lovely day out yote hunting, and you could end up with a disease like Lymes for the rest of your life......Even coyotes with heavy mange don't get to come home with me.....Pelts are not worth a nickel when they are that bad, so they get to stay out in the bush...... 0 23602 0 0 0 0 189954 0 4409 Mich. Buck Wacker 0 1 70.104.126.227 1133818388 0 Wow! Dude, you taught her well! Shes a keeper. your one lucky guy Guess! 0 23571 0 0 0 0 189955 0 2375 LadyWIhunter 0 1 62.20.82.196 1133818443 0
QUOTE(cr24)
You will probably be the first one to complain when you have no more deer to hunt. we used to have alot of deer in Pa. but the deer pigs and P.G.C. killed them all now hunting is really tough.
Was this comment directed at me perhaps? Due to the number of deer I have taken this season?
If it wasn't directed at me, please disregard the remainder of this post.
If it was directed at me, who the heck are you to refer to me as a deer pig???
That sounds like pure jealousy talking if you ask me.
Wisconsin has a deer problem. Waupaca county, specifically, where I hunt, has a HUGE deer problem. Shooting alot of deer, particularly does, which is what I have done, is exactly what the DNR wants people to do. Sadly, too many macho men refuse to shoot does in order to help manage the deer herd. And many of these men are QDM advocates.
If the herd should ever decrease to where shooting off all the deer actually becomes a concern, THEN I'll worry about shooting too many. But for now, thats simply a ludicrous idea in Waupaca county WI. 0 23380 0 0 0 0 189956 0 1819 JonEbluewing 1 1 69.76.220.178 1133818555 0 stoutk Yea this has been a pretty good duck season for me. Can't complain. Can't wait for geese though. I am a senior in high school. Imagine the hunting time i'll have next year in college :shock: :shock:
Good luck to all
JonEbluewing 0 23592 0 0 0 0 189957 0 1819 JonEbluewing 1 1 69.76.220.178 1133818770 0 Shadow grass and nat gear for me. Too me camo isnt that important, all about covering up in the field, keeping your face down in the blind, and staying in the shadows if possible.
JonEbluewing 0 22037 0 0 0 0 189958 0 2375 LadyWIhunter 0 1 62.20.82.196 1133818800 0
QUOTE(Hardcore)
Congrates to the great Lady from Wisconsin! I love to read what she writes. I agree with her 100%. I have been hunting in Wisconsin for over 40 years! I shot the first deer of my life with a recurve bow at age 14. If you think that you can come to wisconsin and find good quality bucks wherever you go on public property you are dreaming. First off we have alot of out of state hunters that hunt here and we are glad to have them. Most do not own land and hunt the public property. They are not the people getting the large bucks in P&Y. Most of the large bucks are taken from PRIVATE property where large tracts of land are leasted or privately owned. There are large bucks around the state in every county but you have to hunt very hard or just be lucky to see them. There is a problem with to many deer. I have seen the average weight of the deer drop over the years from about 145 to 125. It is because you can only put so many fish in the nfish bowl or they have to change to fit the enviroment they live in. I also eat game I collect. I do not buy beef or domesticated birds or any other raised meat. I love to eat venison and will always shoot to eat. I havent seen a recipe for horns yet. Every deer I shoot is a trophy!
In wisconsin we have alot of farms. Some are large and some are small.
I wonder how you use the QDM on 80 acres!!! My neighbors dont practice it so the deer I let go they shoot anyway. QDM is good if you have a ranch or 500 plus acres to keep the deer on your property but even 500 acres isn't enough. During the rut a buck can roam up to several miles.
Do we put a license plate on the deer from our property so other hunters dont shoot it because it is in the QDM program and someone wants to see how big it can get! I like to find tracks and follow the deer. This methode works great in the large northern forest area's nof wisconsin but how many of the hunters go more than a 1/2 mile from the road! The deer are here but you have to go get them. I like the way Wisconsin is set up and commend the DNR on a great job! If you want a big buck then just go pay a guiden to do the work for you and put you on a stand and let you shoot a big P&Y buck. If that makes you feel better than go for it.
As for now I will stay hunting deer like they have always done in wisconsin! To feed the family. God bless you LadyWIHunter ! Keep up the good work. Maybe some day we can meet and have a good ol barbeque and talk deer hunting in Wisconsin! :lol:
In wisconsin we have alot of farms. Some are large and some are small.
I wonder how you use the QDM on 80 acres!!! My neighbors dont practice it so the deer I let go they shoot anyway. QDM is good if you have a ranch or 500 plus acres to keep the deer on your property but even 500 acres isn't enough. During the rut a buck can roam up to several miles.
Do we put a license plate on the deer from our property so other hunters dont shoot it because it is in the QDM program and someone wants to see how big it can get! I like to find tracks and follow the deer. This methode works great in the large northern forest area's nof wisconsin but how many of the hunters go more than a 1/2 mile from the road! The deer are here but you have to go get them. I like the way Wisconsin is set up and commend the DNR on a great job! If you want a big buck then just go pay a guiden to do the work for you and put you on a stand and let you shoot a big P&Y buck. If that makes you feel better than go for it.
As for now I will stay hunting deer like they have always done in wisconsin! To feed the family. God bless you LadyWIHunter ! Keep up the good work. Maybe some day we can meet and have a good ol barbeque and talk deer hunting in Wisconsin!
:lol:Thanks Hardcore!
Meeting someday and having a barbeque is a great idea! I promise I can talk Wisconsin deer hunting longer than some women can shop!
I guess I'm just weird...but I'd rather hunt than shop! Unless its for hunting gear of course. 0 23380 0 0 0 0
189959 0 1044 BowOnly 1 1 69.150.216.194 1133819126 0 Move...but not too close that you disturb them when setting up. Also, if it snowed at night and you went out the next day, you will only see the tracks from where they are going in the morning. They may use another route for evening travel. 0 23607 0 0 0 0
189960 0 3665 Jimbob 1 1 70.31.140.47 1133819279 0 My friends Dad has a pair, and their pointless. Get a camera or binoculars or both, but not a combo. 0 23606 0 0 0 0
189961 0 4160 Arkansashunter 0 1 66.76.143.181 1133819376 0 Is there any chance Primos might offer the Hunter Orange Vest through their website this coming year? It looks just like their bow vest , I saw a number of their Prostaff wearing them on the newest DVD-The TRUTH 13 Big Bucks. I did not find this item in the new catalog (30th Anniversary Edition). I am sure if they make it available they would sell like hot cakes!! If anyone knows anything or can pass this along to the right people at Primos that would be great. Please post any info thanks. 0 23608 PRIMOS Hunter Orange Vest?? 1 0 0 0
189962 0 4607 rocksteady 1 1 24.66.174.200 1133819661 0 I went on Ebay and bought a cd called Call Crazy Coyotes from T&M Outdoors today..
4 tracks
1- 22 mins of small animal distress
2 - 20 + mins of jack/snowshoe rabbit
3 - 20 mins of long range distress.
4 - 4 mins of audio commentary...
They say in the listing that you can use it as a stand alone calling disc, just plug it in and let it play...Only cost $9 US , so I will see what I get for that price.....Unlike others, I can't afford the FoxPro (even thought I would love to own one), so I will use my discman and a set of speakers that I bought from Radio Shack (computer speakers)....
Once I get it and try it I will tell you guys if its worth spending a ten spot or not.....
Not like I will be throwing away my mouth calls just cause this thing is on the way......
Product comes out of Stevensville, MI ( Help me out here, is that Mississippi / Missouri/ Michigan?????) 0 23555 0 0 0 0 189963 0 2375 LadyWIhunter 0 1 62.20.82.196 1133819664 0 Thanks!
I haven't seen a coyote this year. I usually do so thats a bit unusual. I did see a gray fox and a huge raccoon. The coon came within 10 yards and checked me out. ~L~ 0 23604 0 0 0 0 189964 0 137 T.B. 1 1 70.20.89.117 1133819760 0 How bout I'm tired of hearing about the Colts. Manning is a good QB, but put him in the cold and he wont do so well. Lucky for him he is getting homefield and will play in his nice little dome for the playoffs. 0 23598 0 0 0 0 189965 0 795 wmramse 1 1 198.160.96.7 1133820270 0 I agree. I wouldn't own a 1.3mp digital camera after using my 5.0mp - the quality just isn't worth messing with. If the camera were of better quality then maybe, but I wouldn't suggest it. 0 23606 0 0 0 0 189966 0 2589 big buck shoter 1 1 65.219.76.211 1133820982 0 A trophy can be a doe but to my dad he has different agenda in life for deer hunting and I think we should respect him for that!
bbs
NOT TRYING TO START ARGUMENTS! 0 23577 0 0 0 0 189967 0 4646 ukfowler 1 1 62.254.64.19 1133821318 0 Does any one know a good call for Pinkfeet Geese ? I've been playing around try to retune some Snow goose calls the pitch doesn't sound right saying that did manage to call acouple of skein in and drop four last week though. :?: :?: 0 23609 Pinkfeet calls 1 0 0 0 189968 0 3187 Randolph Cox 1 1 68.210.234.80 1133821319 0 Congrats!Hope they have good luck also. 0 23604 0 0 0 0 189969 0 3187 Randolph Cox 1 1 68.210.234.80 1133821587 0 It's highly doubtful I will get anything larger than the 8.I'm really counting on some of ya'll to find some headgear.Good luck to you. 0 21750 0 0 0 0 189970 0 4607 rocksteady 1 1 24.66.174.200 1133822462 0 Browsing the Whitetail hunting pages theres a contest for teams for the amount of deer taken......How about something similar for us predator hunters?????
Coyotes/foxes/wolves/bobcats/lynx/cougar?
Let you guys decide which is worth what points....
Maybe we could start this contest on January 1, 2006.....
As long as Guess is on my team, I am interested...... :wink: :wink: :wink: 0 23610 Hey Moderators, How about this ??? 1 0 0 0 189971 0 622 Doc 1 1 66.93.4.139 1133822829 0 I sure hope so. This was one item I was really hoping to see and was a little dissapointed to not find it in the catalog. I'm guessing maybe they're holding onto it for 2007 for a new product. Is a shame though, as I thought it would great on my CO Rifle hunt next year. Time will tell I suppose. 0 23608 0 0 0 0 189972 0 1112 jw 0 1 206.74.85.169 1133822920 0 ethical? just as many deer are lost with a bow than with dogs. Ethically deer hunting with dogs is no different than anything else.
And contrary to what you may think the deer DO NOT cross the same places year after year. ideally in SC dog hunting has a place b/c our woods are very thick and our deer are very smart and fast. there is not much of a difference b/n man driving and dog driving. In sc a lot of our woods you cannot even man drive because of the terrain we have. 0 23593 0 0 0 0 189973 0 4173 dgbigo 1 1 152.163.100.65 1133823090 0 I had used a white oak acorn atrractant scent several years ago and had great success with it. I have not been able to find it anywhere.I don't remeber the brand name but it has a sweet nutty smell to it and it was also in an oil base. If anyone has any info or any good alternatives it would be greatly appreciated. 0 23611 attrractant scents? 1 0 0 0 189974 0 4274 Dosse 0 1 64.139.246.51 1133823208 0 I have only missed one deer due to yardage error, but when i was younger i missed numerous deer because of getting nervous and just pretty much forgetting what i was doin. As i progressed as a hunter i learned to control my self better and concentrate on a small spot when i aim on a deer and have not missed now in quite some time. But like mentioned above there are many things that can go wrong between the release of your arrow and the point of impact. Thats what makes killing game with a bow such a worthwhile experience 0 23585 0 0 0 0 189975 0 4417 bigbuckbill 1 0 66.189.39.149 1133823810 0 CONGRATS on the ML kill 0 23604 0 0 0 0 189976 0 4417 bigbuckbill 1 0 66.189.39.149 1133823893 0 YA it might be u should try it it has more load in it you might have a better chance with a bigger spread..
Just my opinion 0 23603 0 0 0 0 189977 0 4382 duckslayer09 0 1 68.89.83.81 1133823899 0 I dont know about you but the first half of my duck season sucked. I dont know if it was the weater or just the ducks werent in my reagon but I only killed 75 or 80 ducks the first half. 0 23612 first half of duck season sucked 1 0 0 0 189978 0 4417 bigbuckbill 1 0 66.189.39.149 1133824072 0 I have to agree with ya JimBob 0