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..Finally I was watching Chris Ashley on the primos video using the snyper so I tried them.First deer complete pass through,blood everywhere.Second deer spined,it went 6\ through the backbone.I have never seen a broadhead go through a backbone.They usually stop in it,with my set ups anyway.In reference to kick out.I will tell you this.Now I hate to admit it ,but this is a true story.I had a doe come in.She was broadside with the right side of her body towards me.I put it behind her shoulder.I released.She ducked,spinning toward me,and tried to turn around to head back in the direction she came from.The arrow hit her in the left side of the face,cut along the jawbone,then busted through her neck paralizing her instanly.Not what I wanted,but I was amazed.The tip of the broadhead curled.But it did not ricochet off of her jawbone.AMAZING.I will tell you how it is.The snyper entry wounds are larger than the exit holes,because of the way the blades slap out.I have had no rubberband failures or problems.They are sharp.
The time I spined that one doe the tip didn't curl.
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158082 0 3958 parkerbowsrock 1 1 69.168.56.39 1123942418 0 I have never seen a deer with spots by the time hunting season gets here. I will shoot the first legal deer past my stand with a bow. It helps knock the edge off.lol. As for does with fawns, I have always heard that when the rut comes in the mother will run off her youngins. I figure if I can save them the anguish and feelings of not being wanted anymore by their mommy, that is a good thing. Im all about cold turkey,lol. 0 20068 0 0 0 0
158083 0 3232 deno_supremo15 1 1 216.165.186.125 1123942717 0 Ohio, Just last weekend I had a shot at a 30 yard standing bear where you had to shoot through what looked like a crab claw of a fallen tree. Weellll...Through my sight it looked like I had plenty of room between my pin and the top of the crab claw, but of course not...shattered my arrow into a million pieces. and the worst was when I stood up astonished someone pointed to a little sign on the tree, KNEEL TO SHOOT IF NEEDED :oops: 
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158084 0 3187 Randolph Cox 1 1 216.78.121.23 1123942782 0 doodaa there is no law in Ga that says you can't kill a deer with spots,but generally I would say almost everyone I know will not shoot a deer with spots.(Well,pretty much I don't know anyone who would shoot one that is fully spotted.)They usually have lost their spots by opening day here anyways.I did shoot one a few years back,and you could see in about 3 places where there were a dozen hairs still in the shape of spots,but that deer was 50lbs.I never saw that until I was cleaning her.Which 3 faded out white spots aren't much considering they usually have over 200 spots on them.But I won't intentionally shoot a deer with spots. 0 20068 0 0 0 0
158085 0 57 james ard 1 1 216.79.255.165 1123942824 0 Back in th e 80's I shot the old bear and never had one to do that .I shoot the phantom now from muzzy and I love it .I shot a deer with it last year at about 28 yrds and it sound like a 22 when it hit the ribbcage.Made a big hole going in and going out.He went about 30-40 yards and piled up. 
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158086 0 3070 B.A.D. OA 2 1 1 68.105.158.231 1123943001 0 Nice Pup...and Future hunter... 0 20083 0 0 0 0
158087 0 844 butterbean7008 0 1 66.167.62.233 1123943480 0 Nice looking pup. If Dalton is like mine you can look at him and say lets go to the woods and all that tired will be gone 0 20083 0 0 0 0
158088 0 3187 Randolph Cox 1 1 216.78.121.23 1123943563 0 KB I would go with the liberty.280 is plenty fast.The faster the bow the harder the cam.My diamond has got a very hard cam,and it took me almost a month to get used to that.If you let the bow creep it will try and go.You have to keep moderate pressure to keep it fully drawn.But it is very quiet.You will notice a difference in the way the Patriot feels when you draw it.You'll probably be happy with either one,but when you say speed vs quietness.I was thinking 250 quiet vs 290 speed.Because honestly 280 is not slow at all.I think that you will have no problems making that 40 yd shot with the liberty,and with it being quieter,there is less of a chance of him hearing the bow go off.. 
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158089 0 3958 parkerbowsrock 1 1 69.168.56.39 1123943747 0 Sounds like a great video. I will check it out. 0 20077 0 0 0 0
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oct 1 - jan 7 0 19692 0 0 0 0 158091 0 3829 Elkcrayz 1 1 207.200.116.13 1123945161 0 i cant wait!! pronghorn season starts mondays 8) two days tell i'll be a field
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158092 0 2027 Bdubedub 1 1 67.173.22.234 1123945356 0 I wouldnt go w/ 4 blade, you get less penetration. 0 20072 0 0 0 0
158093 0 3958 parkerbowsrock 1 1 69.168.56.39 1123945509 0 Give me some opinions on the best arrow. I currently shoot beman ICS 400's. I may switch this year. It seems like if I buy 6 arrows there are 1 or 2 that will not fly with broadheads. I think a lot of it is how they cut them for me, but I am beginning to wonder about the quality of the beman arrows. 0 20085 which arrow? 1 0 0 0
158094 0 2501 tomsd5 1 1 68.112.89.123 1123946875 0 i have no idea how fast my bow is ...prob not so fast as i can only draw like 40 lbs.... but it's quite and smooth... and it gets the job done ... 0 19935 0 0 0 0
158095 0 3900 Zbullman 1 1 67.174.120.10 1123948258 0 OBH:
With a lung shot, I suppose you could say the animal sufficates in its own blood, but I believe, more often than not, it bleeds-out.
MoElk:
I will take a second look at the video and if I missed the blood, I will recant. (I thought I made a mistake once, but I wrong!!) Does not change the fact, however, that it is an irresponsible shot.
With regard to my capbilities as a hunter, I have released 20 arrows at whitetail and elk and cleanly harvested 18 animals, not-so-cleanly harvested one, and cleanly missed another (got cocky and tried to clip the heart).
I am sure you have taken 762 bulls with just 55 arrows and your right, I just couldn't measure up to that.
WW:
Very well said.
From this point, I will not entertain another response from el-MoElk-less, (oops, I just stooped), as the maturity level does not warrant it!! 0 19367 0 0 0 0 158096 0 3964 Coyote 0 1 72.47.12.2 1123948940 0 First of, love your calls, love your shows. I'm looking for a grunt snort wheeze call for whitetail and am suprised that u dont offer one. Maybe I missed it. Do u offer one and if not i wonder why...... :?: 0 20086 grunt/snort/wheeze 1 0 0 0 158097 0 3900 Zbullman 1 1 67.174.120.10 1123949130 0 True, it is also a spLine (arrow stiffness) test, but it is a great way to eliminate arrow fish-tailing, which can be due to improper bow set up or bad shooting form..
If you can shoot a bullet in the paper without feathers, then, on the actual hunting arrow, the feathers have virtually no correction to perform, so speed and accuracy are maximized.. 0 19792 0 0 0 0 158098 0 1314 manbugle 0 1 67.42.53.134 1123949196 0 One of the guys in our camp has started making our meals ahead of time at home and then vacuum sealing them. It works great, as you can freeze them solid which helps keep your cooler colder then just take them out one at a time and heat them in a pan over your stove. 0 19570 0 0 0 0 158099 0 3179 BBbuckhunter 0 1 152.163.100.65 1123949694 0 I want to go hunting for a coyote at night and i keep thinking to myself what happens if a coyote spots me at night or even smells me.. will he bite or even attack me. please help. 0 20087 Will a coyote attack me if i go hunting for it at night? 1 0 0 0 158100 0 29 need2hunt 1 1 207.43.73.218 1123952340 0 dooda, there are lots of states that do not have laws protecting fawns with spots Illinois being one - but you also have to realize that in our fawns drop earlier than yours down south so come deer season you don't see many with spots - in fact I've only seen one in all of my years deer hunting. 0 20068 0 0 0 0 158101 0 3965 rhodeislandhunter 0 1 68.224.196.99 1123953139 0 im not sure of what you shoot as far as draw lenght or poundage but i shoot a hoyt ultramag,65lbs with a 271/2 in draw and im putting carbon express maxima 350 arrows 14 into a block target at 30yds,out of the 6 arrows i shoot for practice whether its a broadhead or field point they always hit there mark.hope this helps.