Well until the day a bear came into my calling :shock: 0 1541 0 0 0 0
9028 0 1024 Fastflite81 1 1 216.52.32.206 1073083200 0 Hey, I am getting ready for the spring season of 2004 here in Montrose, Colorado. I was just woundering if anyone had some input on how the spring seaon will be effected by the snowfall so far this winter. It has amounted to as much as we have gotten in the past three winters combined. How do you think the gobllers will react ot the spring this year. It seamed like the rut was around 2 weeks behind the norm this past spring. I think if winter keeps going this way the tukrys will be out sooner this year and the rut will be right on time. That is just my opinon. I can see it happening but I was just woundering what anyone else thought. 0 1730 How do you think the turkeys will be this spring 1 0 0 0
9029 0 84 Muzzy 0 1 24.231.167.89 1073085298 0 that is a lot of Money, for a full body Mount in my mind,I know a guy that paid 300.00 for a full body Mount, and it look good Very Good, I guess it help to know someone. 0 1729 0 0 0 0
9030 0 362 brian_44_15 1 1 67.66.118.141 1073085649 0 Hey i was wondering if any of ya'll seen any Albino Deer. We seen one were we hunt be we think it got killed becuase the person who on the other land was hunting this stand beside us and we saw a Albino doe and a regualr 4 point go his way then we heard a gun shot and the buck was illegal. So i think he shot it. 0 1731 Anyone Seen any Albino Deer? 1 0 0 0
9031 0 928 BucknDoe 1 1 24.161.10.228 1073087235 0 Hey Muzzy, I don't know who is doing the taxidermy in your area, but I can't even get a shoulder mount for $300.00 these days. If your price is accurate and the quality is decent, then more power to you and your taxidermist friend. With the amount I have spent this year alone on three pieces I am having done, it would have paid for me to ship the work to your neck of the woods. 0 1729 0 0 0 0
9032 0 956 Rod 0 1 209.240.207.249 1073087876 0 There are several at a state park near me, I see them frequently from my boat and have numerous photos of them. A lot of people think that there is only one albino deer on the park but I have seen as many as 3 together before. There have been albino's there for at least 20 years. I read somewhere once that the offspring from a pure albino doe have something like a 25-50% chance of being albino also. I guess there is enough albinism in the gene pool of the deer on the park that there are always a couple around year after year. I saw one in McDonough county, Illinois once about 25 years ago, the only other place I've ever seen an albino.
It is illegal to kill pure albino deer in Illinois. 0 1731 0 0 0 0 9033 0 795 wmramse 1 1 166.102.160.132 1073088245 0 My father-in-law got me a shoulder pad for the range...my wife is always complaining about how bruised my shoulder is from my muzzleloader! Also got some new Realtree Extra Gray camo clothes, and a 10-pt plastic deer head antenna topper (from my wife :roll: )...hehe...mounted it myself :wink: My Mom also got me a climbing stand and a vacuum cleaner - judging by how much my dog hates the vacuum, I can't imagine it will help me get any deer, so I'll probably let my wife use it most of the time :wink:
I also got enough money to get plenty of clearance stuff from Wally World. I also used that to get my bow tuned up and get the Trophy Ridge 3-pin Flatliner sight and an APA Ultimate arrow rest. The bow shoots clean, quiet, and true now.
Now if only I could convince the deer to walk in front of my bow...
The best part of my Christmas was when my father-in-law gave my nephew a box of .270 shells for his 30-30. They told him that they must have picked up the wrong box at Wal-Mart, so he could take them back and probably get 2 boxes of 30-30 shells...then he pulled his old .270 out of the cabinet and said, but since you have those bullets, might as well give you something to shoot them with. He grinned so big you coulda tied his smile behind his head with plenty left over
Happy Holidays, all.
Wes 0 1657 0 0 0 0 9034 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073088559 0 rod, your talking about sangchris lake park arnt you? i saw more than tree hearded together near the park in a cornfield last spring when i was fishing there. i couldnt tell exactly how many were there but there were atleast 5 or 6. i've only seen 1 buck out there but i would assume there is more than 1. 0 1731 0 0 0 0 9035 0 655 OHIOBOWHUNTER 0 1 69.133.34.145 1073090069 0 OHIO Jan 31st 0 1728 0 0 0 0 9036 0 125 Bowsnyper 0 1 209.120.35.226 1073090464 0 Yeah no kidding!! $300 for a full body is un-real muzzy, around here, well at least the taxidermest I know charges $350 for a basic shoulder mount, wich isn't bad in my eye's... I have a friend that lives about 80 miles away that had a full body done on a 6 ft. mnt. lion and it cost him $1200. :shock: un-real prices when you get into full body mounts.. >>>---------> Bowsnyper 0 1729 0 0 0 0 9037 0 956 Rod 0 1 209.240.207.249 1073090716 0 You got it Ryan. I've never seen 5 or 6 though before, that would have been a great picture. Sometimes you see an albino doe with a white fawn, or with a regular fawn, I've even seen does with twins that had one of each. I had an albino doe at less than 10 yards once when I was bow hunting over there. It used to be legal to shoot them, but I don't think I would even if it was. I know that one was killed over at Sangchris by a bow hunter years ago, before the law was changed. It's amazing that they aren't poached over there now. Someone shot an albino down in Macoupin county once too I remember, again back when it was legal to do so. 0 1731 0 0 0 0 9038 0 125 Bowsnyper 0 1 209.120.35.226 1073090881 0 Yeah, I have a friend like that, he has an old dinasoar bow, he thought mine was so fast and accurate that he bought a new one. he didn't like it because he could'nt hardly see the flight of the arrow, so he sold it and went back to his old bow, he lobb's those big old heavy alluminum arrows, and I've yet to see him miss... 0 1705 0 0 0 0 9039 0 125 Bowsnyper 0 1 209.120.35.226 1073091053 0 Thats true, Buckfever will kill ya' every time.. 0 1703 0 0 0 0 9040 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073091084 0 rod, you think that the dnr would want them out of the heard? your dad works at dnr doesnt he? ive allways wanted to know why we arnt allowed to shoot one? if you could ask if there is a specific reason i would appriciate it. also i know the rule on that is that if it has any brown on them then they can be shot, but does that include white deer or just albino? 0 1731 0 0 0 0 9041 0 930 playza00 0 1 12.215.78.192 1073091203 0 at a resonable price? 0 1732 what best scope to buy for a 30-30 1 0 0 0 9042 0 817 Tmoney 1 1 205.188.209.141 1073091622 0 i have the du wench- great for close callin
and the Mother- goose call
and a single reed nasty boy from southern game calls- more raspy and louder for far callin
i need to and recommend getting the primos drake whistle- since it is like 4 calls for other ducks too
then i need a snow goose call for the yellupers!
that should do ya fine 0 1725 0 0 0 0 9043 0 125 Bowsnyper 0 1 209.120.35.226 1073091635 0 Has anybody had any experiance with these, ie. how they fly, strength &durability. and also is theyr'e any diferance between the serrated head and the standard blade or is it just a preferance, any help would be great. Thanks >>>--------------> Bowsnyper 0 1733 STEEL FORCE BROADHEADS 1 0 0 0 9044 0 795 wmramse 1 1 166.102.160.132 1073091823 0 Arkansas is finished with gun seasons, but bow season is open through mid-February. 0 1728 0 0 0 0 9045 0 125 Bowsnyper 0 1 209.120.35.226 1073092180 0 I guess it depends on the type of terrain you hunt, usually 30-30's are great rifles for brushy country. not realy a long range or open field rifle.. I would have to go with a 3-9x40 or a straight 4 power.. as for reasonable price I'll stick w/ my theory of spending more money on optics, than spending on a rifle. You can have a weatherby- put a crappy scope on it.. then put a swarovsky on a savage 270 and be better off. just my opinion.. hope this helps.>>>--------------> Bowsnyper 0 1732 0 0 0 0 9046 0 956 Rod 0 1 209.240.207.249 1073092521 0 I don't know of a reason why the DNR would want them out of the herd. Albinism is just a lack of pigmentation, like in albino humans. There isn't anything else wrong with them that I know of other than they have really poor eyesight. They aren't endangering the regular deer in any way that I can see.
I don't know why the law concerning shooting them was changed, but I imagine it was likely just public sentiment. Maybe because of the ones at Sangchris since it's so close to the state capital, although that's just my guess. That may not be the reason at all.
Personally I don't have a problem with them being protected. I've been deer hunting for over 25 years and have only seen one albino in my life other than the ones at Sangchris, and that wasn't even while I was hunting. I think the odds would be pretty high against most people ever having the opportunity to shoot one in their lifetime even if it was legal to do so. 0 1731 0 0 0 0 9047 0 484 Troy Gentry 0 1 67.29.213.242 1073092577 0 Hey muzzy,
That's a good price!! I can't even buy the mold for that!! The molds usually run around $400 +!!! 0 1729 0 0 0 0 9048 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073092763 0 i dont have a problem with having them protected either rod, i just think it would be a cool trophy if you can get a chance at an albino or a white deer. but i can understand your point of view on how close they are to the state capitol. maybe they should push to make deer the state animal
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9049 0 708 Prof 0 1 68.102.131.160 1073092985 0 I am thinking about using shotgun slugs for deer--ar at least trying my hand at it. Can one shoot both sabot and rifled slugs from a smoothbore? And what about the choked shotguns--I would like to keep the choke in the gun, and its my understanding that the rifled slugs are made to compress when shooting through a choke. Is this correct? Is it safe? I am pretty ignorant about this, and would appreciate any info. Thanks! 
0 1734 Slugs for deer? 1 0 0 0
9050 0 941 sonny 0 1 64.12.96.43 1073093510 0 I hunted a long time with a 30-30 and took alot of deer with it. I had a 3x and then a 2-7. Most of your shots with a 30-30 are fairly close. I really liked the 2-7X. But always buy the best optics you can afford! Sonny 0 1732 what scope for a 30-30 0 0 0 0
9051 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073093733 0 since i live in illinois we can only use slug guns, hand guns or muzzleloaders for gun season. you cant shoot a sabot slug through a smooth bore because sabot's arnt rifled so you can only shoot them through a rifled barrell. but rifled slugs in my opinnion are just as good and powerful. slug guns pack alot of punch . and a good scope or sites can get you out 100- 175 yds. i have never had to use more than one slug to kill any deer. call me lucky or the slug does the job. 0 1734 0 0 0 0
9052 0 956 Rod 0 1 209.240.207.249 1073094343 0 The whitetail deer IS the state animal buddy! There is also a state fish (bluegill) , state bird (cardinal I think). Also a state tree, plant, and fossil (don't know or CARE what they are!!). Heck with our state they'll probably start selling naming rights like all the stadiums and bowl games do now. We'll have the Tostito's State Animal or something like that! 0 1731 0 0 0 0
9053 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073095113 0 dont i feel stupid :oops: i knew the bird and fish and plant but some how that must have slipped my mind. oh well learn something new every day 0 1731 0 0 0 0
9054 0 850 Stephen 0 1 205.188.209.141 1073095841 0 I found out today that Mossberg has introduced a NEW 935 Semi Auto 12 Gauge. It is so new that some of the gun dealers haven't seen or know about the turkey models. They will have 24 or 26 barrels and are overbored. They are available in 3 different camo patterns and you can check out the info on Mossberg.com select Products. Cost seems to be $500-$600 0 1611 Turkey Hunting 0 0 0 0
9055 0 956 Rod 0 1 209.240.207.249 1073096209 0 Ryan is right on the money, use rifled slugs in smoothbores only and sabots in rifled barrels or rifled choke tubes only. I have been using a Savage with a smoothbore barrel in modified choke and shooting rifled slugs for a long time. It is very accurate and those slugs have tremendous knock-down power. Lots of guys like the sabots too. But my 870 with a screw-in choke shoots the sabots really bad. I've tried 2 choke tubes and several kinds of sabots and it just isn't consistent so I don't deer hunt with it. Also be sure to use whatever brand slugs you sight in with for hunting too. My Savage shoots Winchester or Remington rifled slugs great but for some reason Federals aren't too good. Never have figured out why, it's easier to just use what works.
Also don't let me scare you about the screw-in choke tubes. Your gun may do fantastic with one. My 870 for some reason isn't a very good slug gun using a rifled tube. I've thought about just getting a rifled barrel instead of the screw-in tube, but my other gun does so well I can't justify spending the money for one. 0 1734 0 0 0 0 9056 0 997 Slider 0 1 63.190.33.25 1073097871 0 I use an HHA Optimiser 5000 with 3 ft. of Fiber Optic.(Green Pin) This sight will add apr. 10 Minutes of extra Hunting Time at Dawn and Dusk! I set it for 30 Yards. I know where it will hit at 20,25,35 and 40 yards. Practise,Practise,Practise. If you have time to set the distance with a range finder it's impossible to miss.(If you do your part) You will never shoot the wrong pin again. I just watched a Hunting Video with Stan Potts in it and he shot over a Bulls Back! He thought he hit it.There is only two ways to shoot over an animal. He miss judged the range or he shot the WRONG PIN!!!!!! 0 1613 0 0 0 0 9057 0 192 Oregon Archer 0 1 67.75.216.75 1073101354 0 ive used the 85gr serrated heads for the last couple of season. they are by far the easiest bhead i have ever tuned. they fly just like my field points. they are super sharp also and keep a good edge. ive only bent a few of them but that was due to striking hard objects. i highly recommend them. 0 1733 0 0 0 0 9058 0 981 patrick 1 1 66.189.226.55 1073102212 0 Hello, I live in MO and have been turkey hunting for 3 years. I was wondering what call i should use to call in toms or hens during the fall. I use a diaphram but if anyone has any helpful hents id appreciate it
Patrick 0 1735 fall calling 1 0 0 0 9059 0 9 Todd Imiola 1 1 152.163.252.68 1073103522 0 Hey Troy,
They looks pretty good. The price is not bad either! Around here most quality taxidermist are charging between $450 and $500 for a shoulder mount. 0 1729 0 0 0 0 9060 0 795 wmramse 1 1 166.102.160.132 1073104208 0 Thanks Ambrosia. I checked that one out already, though
I don't wanna have to buy a whole 'nother bow just to jack the modules. A guy on one of the other boards I subscribe to suggested some places to look. Thanks though! 0 1705 0 0 0 0
9061 0 997 Slider 0 1 63.187.209.195 1073107751 0 Meduim Bore Magnums 264 Winchester Mag. through 300 Winchester Mag. 0 171 0 0 0 0
9062 0 677 bignosedeer 1 1 66.56.189.32 1073108527 0 been working on my new forum/ come by and join up at http://whitetails.proboards25.com 0 1736 join me 1 0 0 0
9063 0 1014 northern redneck 1 1 205.128.215.120 1073113223 0 I too agree with Ryan. Living in New York, we can only hunt with shotguns in the southern zone where I live. I had been carying a Browning auto 5 in 12 gauge for the longest time. I was shooting federal slugs, which seem to give me the best results with awsome knockdown power. The only problem I had was with shots over 80yds. My groups just weren't consistant. I recently bought a Remington 1100 with a synthetic stock in 20 gauge. I shoot Lightfield sabots and can consistantly shoot 3 inch groups at 100yds. At 150 yds. I shoot only 6 inches low. I feel with these results, the rifled barrel and sabot combo are the only way to go. Not only is the accuracy better, but it's alot nicer carrying the light 20 gauge around compared to that heavy 12. I shot 7 deer this season, at distances from 30yds to 85 yds and shot through all of them. Penetration is not a problem. Hope this helps. 0 1734 0 0 0 0
9064 0 1014 northern redneck 1 1 205.128.215.120 1073114158 0 My best buddy bought me a push bar for my new chevy 2500hd with the duramax deisel(that was my present to myself). He said I would wreck the front end since I run all my deer down instead of shootin them. He also got me one of thos umbrellas to hang on the tree so I wouldn't get wet during huntin season. He knows I don't hunt in the rain! The best present was the one my kids gave me. A beautiful Dale Earnhardt Christmas tree ornament. I have the best kids. 0 1657 0 0 0 0
9065 0 125 Bowsnyper 0 1 209.120.35.192 1073115876 0 Thanks OR. archer, I'll keep that in mind, just by looking at them I kind of figured they would bend easy. but if they fly great and take a good sharp edge, thats most of the battle right there. still curious about the serrated edge, I would assume that it's just a preferance.>>>-------------> Bowsnyper 0 1733 0 0 0 0
9066 0 981 patrick 1 1 66.189.226.55 1073116275 0 I live in a mobile home park on the outskirts of the town i live in, and have woods behind my house. There is a bow target my friend put up behind my house in this clearing in the woods. There is about five acres of woods and 2 50 acre fields. Anyways i was back there looking at the land, because i recently got permission to bow hunt it.I was looking for a place to put up a ladder stand for next archery season. I found 39 buck rubs on 5 acres!! it was crazy, but i knew why. I have a 55 year old friend who showed me the great sport of bow hunting who lended me the first pse compound bow made, he had it laying around and lent it to me. Before the beging of achery season i was back sighting it in at 10 yards. After i had sighted the 10 yard in i was walking back to the 20 yard mark, as i was walking i looked up and saw a doe trauting towards the brush. So i ducked down and crawled 20 yards towards the taget so i could attempt to watch it. When i got to the target i got up behind it to look for the doe, as i was looking around i noticed it flaging as it was running. Well i wasnt done looking at the deer so i followed this little road back to the fields where a hay barn is and got up above the field to watch the deer come out. As i sat there for about 10 minutes i didnt see anything so i walked back to the target, as i was walking in to the clearing i looked up to see if the doe was back there. As i was scanning the area i noticed some low hanging tree branches moving so i looked harder. Come to find out i was staring at the biggest 10 point ive ever seen, 60 yards away from me! i didnt know what else to do besides duck and watch it run. I was SO sick after that happened to me. But i have gotten my ladder stand up back there ready for next season. I gave the bow back to my friend because it was way to short of a draw for me. So ive had a massive 10 pointer basicaly in my back yard for 4-5 months now 
and no bow to take it with. Oh well i just figured id share that story with yall.
Patrick 0 1737 the deer i saw 1 0 0 0 9067 0 981 patrick 1 1 66.189.226.55 1073116946 0 Mossberg 835 in composit mossy oak 26 inch barrel, My dream turkey slair. i shot my first turkey and second turkey with it keeps the tightest pattern. just a suggestion 0 1611 0 0 0 0 9068 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073145056 0 talked to a local arhchery shop manager and also my taxidermists, and he said that from what he's seen and heard that the second rut here in illinois is hitting right now! at first i didnt believe him but after talking to some other hunters at the shop last night they saw 26 !deer! last night alone and a huge 10 pt chasing a yearling doe. if this is the case i better get out and hunt huh?if anybody can shed some light on if this is the second rut or if the buck was just horney let me know?
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9069 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073145537 0 i was at the new hunting store here in town and was talking to the manager that i know and he showed me the new matthews bow that should be out in febuary. its called the Outback. its only 31 12 inches from axle to axle and has string supressors and harmonic dampeners like the lx and the legacy i do belive, but its short like the sq2. the manager said it was going to be reasonably priced, but for matthews i think that means atleast 650$ or more. i know that primos uses pse and so do i as of right now, but im getting a new bow soon . im leaning towards the bukmasters g2sl because of the size, weight and its real fast and quiet, and i can get real good deal on a package, but this new bow looks really sharp. 0 1739 new matthews bow out in a month 1 0 0 0
9070 0 282 Eric Nason 0 1 205.229.203.31 1073147255 0 I have been seeing a few scrapes freshened up, and a few bucks running does. I was watching a big 10 pointer come out of the woods on the edge of a field and was waiting for the wind to get right before I hunted him.
I went out this morning and he walked right under my stand, the problem was he was now a five pointer.
Maybe next year. 0 1738 0 0 0 0 9071 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073147661 0 so youve seen some dropped sheds too huh. i went huntin 2 days ago and saw three small buck sheds within 100yds from each other on a fence row. what part of the state are you hunting in? i picked those sheds up too they will make good rattleing horns for a buddy of mine. 0 1738 0 0 0 0 9072 0 916 rackmaster 1 1 67.96.187.254 1073148054 0 if want to read atruly amazing story(if you already have'nt read it) go to scentloks web site and read the one by lee nichols and the amazing power of scentlok. just a little insight to the story he said he had a young cow elk licking his bow and his boots all the way up to his shoulder.. sounds unbelieveable but anything is possible in the hunting world! 0 1740 scent lok article! 1 0 0 0 9073 0 335 lckrn 1 1 65.140.39.234 1073150203 0 I'd agree with bowsnyper on this, you should always spend as much as possible on a scope. Leupold scopes are good for the price, good FOV, with nice light gathering at sunrise and sunset. If you can't see it you can't get a good shot at it. A friend of mine spent alot of money on binoculars this year, they are really a good set but went cheap on the scope, had a big 10 point ( he could see it great with the binoculars) come out right at dark but never could find it in the scope. Spend the money where it counts. 3x9 40 should be a good one for 30-30, that's what I had on mine. 0 1732 0 0 0 0 9074 0 335 lckrn 1 1 65.140.39.234 1073150603 0 I got to spend the whole week with my dad at our hunting cabin, good food, good company, alot of lies
, and great memories. Since I was 13, we always go to the cabin on christmas day around 2-3 sometimes later sometimes sooner and stay to after the 1st. 20yrs of memories and hope for many more to come. Nothing better in the world. 0 1657 0 0 0 0
9075 0 696 nybowhunter 0 1 24.161.11.72 1073153975 0 if u had to pick any bow from the cablelas selection for under 400$ what would it be, i had a reflex bow which i loved but shootin today i noticed the limbs were starting to crack, :evil: :x so i called em and they said send it back and we will give u credit twords a new one or the same one whatever i want, so what would u pick. 0 1741 new bow 1 0 0 0
9076 0 696 nybowhunter 0 1 24.161.11.72 1073154012 0 if u had to pick any bow from the cablelas selection for under 400$ what would it be, i had a reflex bow which i loved but shootin today i noticed the limbs were starting to crack, :evil: :x so i called em and they said send it back and we will give u credit twords a new one or the same one whatever i want, so what would u pick. 0 1742 new bow 1 0 0 0
9077 0 1000 TScottW99 1 1 199.111.158.91 1073154780 0 I think this is a great scope for a 30-30...
http://www.riflescopes.com/store/prodinfo....number=LEU56150
Leupold Rifleman 2X7X33 for $179. Lifetime warranty and all. For about $20-$30 more you could upgrade to a VXII 0 1732 0 0 0 0 9078 0 1000 TScottW99 1 1 199.111.158.91 1073154900 0 I'm shooting Winchester HV #4's for duck with a Carlson extended modfied choke. Remington T's for geese, both in 3